Godzilla, King of the Monsters comes to G-CON '98!

HARUO NAKAJIMA and KENPACHIRO SATSUMA , "The Men Who Were Godzilla", came to America and G-CON for the third time to visit with admiring fans. A most unique experience was being able to attend the showing of the first American Godzilla film with these distinguished actors who brought our favorite giant monster to life on the silver screen and in our hearts.

Kaiju Trivia

Posted by Jim Walsh on 4 March 1998 (in response to Re: Godzilla, King of the Monsters posted by Jim C. on 4 March 1998)

> Ah, but do you know Nakajima's and Satsuma's favorite roles respectively?

At G-CON, Mr. Satsuma said that his favorite role was as Godzilla in GODZILLA VS. DESROYAH. If I remember right, Nakajima enjoyed his role as one of the Gargantuas in WAR OF THE GARGANTUAS. Am I right, or have the words gotten stuck in my throat?

Posted by Jim C. on 7 March 1998 (in response to Re: Godzilla, King of the Monsters posted by Jim Walsh on 4 March 1998)

Bingo! Good job. You don't get eaten by Gaira!

BTW, Nakajima has also said that his most difficult scene in any film was Gaira's fight with the giant octopus in GARGANTUAS because the octopus was just a prop and it wouldn't fight back! So Nakajima had to provide all the motivation for his less than enthusiastic co-star.

- Jim C.

Posted by Rodan on 21 May 1998

Hey, Aaron! I was wondering if you've received any reviews from Japanese G-Fans?! It seems as though a good portion of American G-Fans were "let down" (as was I) after seeing the Tri-Star movie. I agree that this just wasn't a Godzilla movie. But, I am totally eager to hear reviews from Toho and some Japanese fans.

Who Played Godzilla?

Posted by Gertrude Smith on 17 March 1998 (in response to Re: Who played Godzilla? posted by M. Iwanowski on 17 March 1998)

> Thanks, ULTRAkid. I'll add Ken S. to my list. I've spoken with a colleague in Japan who had a picture of an actor partially G-suited up. As a G-fan, I'm interested in the people inside the suit.

An interesting website you might enjoy: THE WORLD OF SUITAMATION by Dale Pople http://home1.gte.net/dalzilla/suitamation.htm. Also, Katsumi Tezuka and Ryosaku Takasugi are credited with having worn the G-suit. Hopefully, you will be able to attend G-CON in May and meet Mssrs Nakajima and Satsuma! It is a G-fans' ultimate thrill. Scott can also give you first hand (claw?) info on suit building and has had some very *interesting* adventures as Goji himself!

From: OtiGoji Subject: Re: Godzilla Suit or Computer? Date: 08/12/1998 Newsgroups: alt.fan.godzilla

Christopher Paris wrote:

> Ironic how with all that bullsh*t about making a Godzilla better than the Japanese (via CGI), they wound up having to use a guy in a suit anyway...

The delicious irony is that Centropolis wanted to use suitmation a lot more but the American suit-actor didn't pack the gear! It was too hard to walk, he couldn't see and he physically was not able to get the job done, i.e. breaking through the Brooklyn Bridge. After all that bashing the fat "guy in a suit", they wanted to use it anyway but were unable to do the job. The old left-handed compliment for Mr. Nakajima and Mr. Satsuma.

From: Wolf Subject: Re: Godzilla Suit or Computer? Date: 08/11/1998 Newsgroups: alt.fan.godzilla

Before we knock the American suit guy too much I'll remind you that ClassicG was built with a man in mind, and that they don't have to stand on stilts (in costume) to walk around. (That reversed ankle can't be done by a man) Also, CG is much more upright than TG. Thirdly, men in suits (MIS) have always had problems with plaster. In KKvG, where Kong was supposed to knock down the one tower, he hit it three times and didn't mar it. They had to pre-crack it to get him to demolish it. Heck! In g'54 the actor could only stand the suit for 5 minutes before passing out. Just wanted to let you know that CGs have been plagued by similar things.

-Wolf

From: OtiGoji Subject: Re: Godzilla Suit or Computer? Date: 08/12/1998 Newsgroups: alt.fan.godzilla

All that you wrote is true, but the irony is that Devlin went on and on about how the CG (GINO©) was going to be state-of-the-popular-culture-art computer effects, not that old "guy-in-a-suit" jazz and when Centropolis went right ahead with their "guy-in-a-suit" they ran into the problems the Toho crews did. I am not a G'98 basher; I saw it several times and enjoyed it. It is just Devlin's dismissive attitude of the hard work the Toho gang did that I find ironic. Isn't it ironic, don'cha think?

OtiGoji

"Look at the size of those footprints!"

From: TwoZbar Subject: Re: Godzilla Suit or Computer? Date: 08/13/1998 Newsgroups: alt.fan.godzilla

When Toho created the first Godzilla film, man-in-a-suit effects were at the infancy stage, too, right? What about Haruo Nakajima? There were no kaiju eiga before the first Godzilla film for him to base his acting on. Godzilla was born in part from his imagination. To me, this is an essential element that CGI lacks at times, in favor of technical "correctness."

- Red (from the Two-Z-Bar)

From: Wolf  Subject: Re: Godzilla Suit or Computer? Date: 08/13/1998 Newsgroups: alt.fan.godzilla

I'll take the bait. I would consider suitmation to be the oldest effect technique. While not in that scale, suits have existed longer than stopmation or the other FX techniques. How to create... emotion through a suit could have been captured by any golem picture, or even Frankenstein. Basically, any hooded suit.

I see CGI as a means of creating movies not possible with a suit, and extremely difficult w/ models. An idea of this would be say G '98 whipping around and attacking, or the tail-drag through the windows scene that showed a lot of imagination, and a new take. CGI should be used for more than fake pyrotechnics and military hardware in action shots, or all-purpose clean-up.

Toho Vs. Western Fandom.......

From: TwoZbar Date: 03/20/1998 Newsgroups: alt.movies.monster

We should learn from the events of 50 years ago, but not be so quick to lay blame for what happened or who was responsible for it. I know for certain that at least some Americans have a problem making that distinction and are still fighting a war of prejudice in their minds. It is important for those of us on both sides of the Pacific who know the difference to set a good example for these unenlightened people. I think one of the best examples to follow is the one set by Godzilla actor Haruo Nakajima.
Mr. Nakajima stated after the first day of meeting American fans at G-CON in 1996 that it was one of the greatest days of his life. For a man who fought in WWII and then (in his portrayal of Godzilla) went on to embody a symbol of the horrors of war that his country faced, perhaps to ultimately be embraced and honored by American fans represented some type of closure for him.
The fact that Godzilla, Ultraman and other Japanese sci-fi characters have acted as catalysts to help some Americans gain an understanding of Japanese culture shows what important works they truly are.
Most of this is lost on Toho Co., Ltd. which for all intent and purposes, is a corporation. To be fair, a lot of the sentiment that "Toho doesn't really like American fans all that much" has come from what has happened in America, not Japan. In America, Toho is represented by American lawyers with an American attitude toward how business is conducted. I think that goes a much longer way toward explaining the situation than post-WWII sentiment does.

 

 

- Jim C.

Ken Satsuma Motion - captured for G98?
From: Takeuchi Date: 04/28/1998 Newsgroups: alt.movies.monster

 

 

Hi, all.

Here in Japan, I heard a rumor that K. SATSUMA visited the U.S. last year to be motion-captured so that G'98 shall have "CGI-Godzilla who *PLAYS* LIKE KEN  SATSUMA's Godzilla".
Is this rumor true ? After I heard this rumor, I searched a.m.m. articles from Dec 1 1997 to today on DejaNews but I found nothing about the motion-capture itself (except a "suitmation-motion capture" thread.

 

 

From: TwoZbar Date: 04/29/1998 Newsgroups: alt.movies.monster

I don't believe this rumour is true, Takeuchi. Mr. Satsuma visited the USA (along with the original Gojira, Mr. Nakajima) last August to appear at G-CON (the Japanese sci-fi convention) in New York. Before coming to the US, both men expressed an interest in visiting the Tri-Star Godzilla set in either New York or Los Angeles, if possible. (The filming in New York City was already finished by late August.) Centropolis was contacted by the convention organizers about this but they refused to answer or acknowledge the request. Unless Mr. Satsuma made a second trip to the US later in the year (which I doubt because John Roberto, G-CON's organizer, is in touch with Mr. Satsuma and would have heard about this), I doubt that he performed motion-capture for Godzilla '98.

- Jim C.

Insider Views

Posted by Gertrude Smith on 14 May 1998 (in response to My point and I do have one posted by Emiko Yamane on 13 May 1998)

You can get a much better idea of a film from fans of the genre. Sure, we haven't seen it yet and many of us have stated our opinions in these forums. At least they are OUR opinions. When it comes to Godzilla and all "monster" movies, I listen to my heart, not "critics". I am especially looking forward to Mssrs. Nakajima's and Satsuma's impressions on the movie, which will be posted to G-CON '98 ONLINE!   http://www.inteleco.com/gproject/gcon98/index.html as soon as we all return from the theater on May 22. Remember: they are the men who brought Godzilla to life for all of us to enjoy.

G-CON '98 Online http://www.inteleco.com/gproject/gcon98/index.html

From: Denstrick Date: 05/20/1998 Newsgroups: alt.movies.monster

Well, it wasn't Godzilla, but . . .
So, what do we have? The Godzilla we wanted? No. A remake of Beast From 20,000 Fathoms? Yep. And, despite its faults, I enjoyed it. I will see it again. Matter of fact, I'm taking my son to see it tonight. And he's very excited. The same way I was, going to see Valley of Gwangi or Golden Voyage of Sinbad.
For me, this is a good thing. I'll be interested in hearing what Mr. Nakajima thinks.

 

 

See you all at G-CON!

Dennis

From: Mr. X Date: 05/22/1998 Newsgroups: alt.movies.monster

From Newsweek, Page 49, May 25, 1998:

'Satsuma isn't impressed by the coming blockbuster - and hopes it fails. "I hear Godzilla will destroy Wall Street", he says. "They probably think that's original. But myself and Mr. Nakajima, who played Godzilla before me, we went to Wall Street and growled and pawwed at the buildings. We also did The Empire State.
"To be honest, I'm not pleased about this computer-graphic thing called Godzilla. There are a lot of Godzilla fans in the US who share my opinion."'

 

 

From: Brian L.Topic: GODZILLA IS ALIVE! (9 of 15) Date: May 28, 1998 09:36 AM

In my opinion, Godzilla appears only on the title screen. The creature that appears later bears no resemblance, physical or otherwise, to Godzilla. As Haruo Nakajima said at last weekend's G-CON, this creature is Godzilla in name alone. I always saw Godzilla as similar to an injured animal. He's in pain and is on the rampage, destroying everything in his path - a force of nature to be reckoned with. The Tri-Star Godzilla is just a big animal looking for a place to lay its eggs. When confronted with man's arsenal, it runs away. This just isn't Godzilla.

I heard that a kid at Friday's screening of the movie for G-CON turned to his mother after the creature appeared an said, "When is Godzilla going to show up to fight the monster?" To say that those of us who prefer Toho's Godzilla are deluded and can't move on is ridiculous. I think that most of us were prepared to accept the new physical design as long as it stayed true to Godzilla's spirit and character. It didn't.

Brian L.
Godzilla Actor Nakajima on Radio Today
From: Gertrude Smith Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 09:09:51 -0500

 

 

Rick Martin wrote:

> > Haruo Nakajima, the original man in the Godzilla suit, will be answering questions live on the Dan McDowell WHIO 1290 AM radio show today from 5 PM to 6 PM in Dayton, Ohio. Nakajima, who is appearing at G-CON at the Arlington Heights Radisson Hotel this weekend, has taken time away from his convention schedule to appear with Dan McDowell, Dayton's top rated talk show host.
Any chance of getting a copy of the tape or transcript? We've got G-CON ONLINE! at  http://www.inteleco.com/gproject/gcon98/index.html and this would be a nice addition. BTW, are you going to be there? I should get in about noon Friday.

 

 

Gertrude

From: Rick Martin Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 09:26:26 -0400 To: Gertrude Smith

Thanks for the E-mail. The interview didn't go off yesterday because of mix ups regarding our Eastern time and Chicago's Central time. We're trying to link up today at 4 PM EST. If it happens, remind me and I'll make you a tape.
Unfortunately, we won't be at the show.

 

 

Rick

Chat With the Men Who Played Godzilla

From: Aaron Smith Date: Thursday May 21, 1998 09:55 PM

The Sci-Fi Channel web chat went very well tonight with the men who played Godzilla. You really could feel the love and honor the two men have for Godzilla and being inside the suit. They didn't dwell on the new Godzilla since it isn't their Godzilla but for those interested, when asked if they like the new look, Mr. Satsuma was very open: "Honestly speaking, I am a bit disappointed."

You can call the real Godzilla cheesy and dumb all you like but these people worked hard to bring you some fun and imagination and they deserve just as much respect for what they did as you may think Devlin and Emmerich do.

They will see the film Friday night and we will have their thoughts on this final product on the G-CON '98 ONLINE! website at http://www.inteleco.com/gproject/gcon98/index.html . The chat transcript is posted there also.

Aaron

From: Anonymous Date: Friday May 22, 1998 03:16 AM

Well, logic tells me, of course he is going to be biased about the Japanese Godzilla.

From: Aaron Smith Date: Friday May 22, 1998 09:29 AM

My point really was that everyone is putting these films down as trash. If they only knew what most of the people on this board really think about the real Godzilla, I feel sorry for them.

Aaron

From: Anonymous Date: Friday May 22, 1998 10:41 AM

You hate the film, ok. You hate the US GODZILLA, ok, fine. It depresses me to see someone get so irate over a film that is entertainment. I won't even go into a movie newsgroup. Those people are quite vicious.
BUT you knew what he looked like. GODZILLA NEWS was on top of every minute detail of the film.

 

 

From: Aaron Smith Date: Friday May 22, 1998 06:33 PM

That is not my point. I've been getting email from people who just hate the classic Godzilla films and insult the Japanese and me while they are at it. I respect your opinion that you like it but the people who worked on those films deserve respect as well. Is that too much to ask for? I don't think so. That is what I am irate over now, not that the new film is bad but the whole attitude of superiority.

Aaron

Posted by Aaron Smith on 22 May 1998 (in response to Hey Aaron: Any reviews from Japan? posted by Rodan on 21 May 1998)

Check out GCON '98 ONLINE! this weekend. The views of Satsuma & Nakajima will be online. They played Godzilla so they may have some bias but on the Sci-Fi Channel Chat, Satsuma said he was disappointed with the look. Nakajima just said it looked like an iguana with a frog's body. It's at  http://www.inteleco.com/gproject/gcon98/index.html .

Aaron
The Godzilla Interview (click here)

Posted by Ken Mercadante on 22 May 1998, at 6:21 a.m.

From: George Lucas II Topic: TOO MUCH CHEESE!!!! (1 of 2) Date: May 29, 1998 05:50 PM

Howdy, GODZILLA Fans! It's me again, the real GODZILLA! Grrrroaaaarrrr! Me tired of insipid banter about crummy Tri-Star/Devlin/Emmerich film! Me know it suck! Me crush Dean Devlin!!! Me have to go back to watching Japanese bootlegs! Me angry! Me have to go back to selling GRIT newspapers for spending money!!! Grooar! Me have to go now. Me a little bound-up! Me eat too much cheese! Grrroaar!.....ugh......

Luv, GODZILLA

From: Anonymous Topic: TOO MUCH CHEESE!!!! (2 of 2) Date: May 29, 1998 05:56 PM

Thanks to George Lucas II for being one of the few rays of reality on the G-Board.

Signed,

D%&n D@*#$n
Godzilla Walks Out on Godzilla 

From: GCON'98 Date: Sunday May 24, 1998 9:17:37 AM

John Rocco Roberto, publisher of KAIJU-FAN magazine reports: "Overall, fan reaction to the film was fair but the most telling point was when Ken Satsuma got up and walked out of the theater. Guess Centropolis should have accepted my offer for help from the Godzilla guys when I first offered it." Look for the full review of the Tri-Star Godzilla in the next issue of KAIJU-FAN.

From: Todd Torres Date: 24 May 1998 Organization: Extra Newsguy News Service Newsgroups: alt.movies.monster

The man who last played the real Godzilla walked out. He was very disappointed in the way they showed Godzilla.The title the guest gave it was J.P.3. I also had the privilege of watching Mr. Nakajima make fun of the way Godzilla walked in the movie.

Peace

From: Barry's Temple of Godzilla Date: Sunday May 24, 1998 10:32 AM

Er, I don't suppose he was just making a quick trip to the rest room?

Just wondering....;^)

Barry G.

From: Aaron Smith Date: Sunday May 24, 1998 10:48 AM

No, Satsuma was actually disgusted by the film.

Aaron

From: Battra Date: Sunday May 24, 1998 11:35 AM

Read the latest issue of FANGORIA. He takes a lot of pride in his work as Godzilla and so would I if I had the chance. And as how he helped shape Goji's personality, I'm not at all surprised he didn't like it.

From: Aaron Smith Date: Sunday May 24, 1998 01:05 PM

You're right. He does take a lot of pride in it. I just wonder if he knows how many here and elsewhere really hate the Japanese Godzilla? I feel bad for him and the others from Toho that worked on these films.

Aaron

From: RHETT Topic: Godzilla walks out on Godzilla (3 of 16) Date: Sunday May 24, 1998 01:47 PM

I think he was upset by the fact that he might be out of a job. Perhaps he was jealous that the CGI Godzilla could move in ways he never can.

-CB

From: eab97 Topic: Godzilla walks out on Godzilla (7 of 16) Date: Sunday May 24, 1998 02:13 PM

Hate? They certainly look down on them, but HATE? I've never known anybody that vehement about it. As for Satsuma being out of a job, he already said he'd never play Godzilla again. And jealous? No, this creature is too different to be considered competition for Satsuma. So there's no jealousy, I'm sure.

From: Aaron Smith Date: Sunday May 24, 1998 04:04 PM

I doubt that. Toho has plans to have two franchises. That was one of the arguments that Tri-Star pitched when they discussed redesigning Godzilla. No, traditional kaiju eiga is here to stay.

>Perhaps he was jealous that the CGI Godzilla could move in ways he never can.

I doubt that too. He just has a long history with the real Godzilla and didn't like the way it was presented.

Sorry EAB, but that's how I see it when I get email calling them the derogatory "Japs" and insisting all the films are trash. Have you read alt.movies.monster? "Hate" is a pretty good description.

Aaron

From: Crow T. Robot Date: Sunday May 24, 1998 04:42 PM

I love the Real Godzilla and all his movies, even Godzilla vs Megalon. I have never thought of them as trash. I just want to state my feelings in a non-violent way about what I read. I'd like to take this time to thank you on the News Letter. You are doing a great job with it and your web site is looking good too. C'ya

Crow T. Robot

From: Aaron Smith Date: Sunday May 24, 1998 07:32 PM

Thanks, I appreciate it. Whether or not I liked it, I was glad to provide people with info on the new film. I'm sure Devlin hated it because of all the pics and stuff but that was news. If there is a sequel, I hope it has a foe. (Gives me new designs to score.) :-)

Aaron

From: K GHIDORAH Date: 25 May 1998 00:00:00 GMT Newsgroups: alt.movies.monster

Who cares if he walked out? Good for him. Maybe he's biased anyway, seeing how computers may have put him out of a job. Satsuma and Nakajima are "old school" so I would find it very unlikely that either of them would like the new G. There is simply no comparison.

Did you put that tidbit up (I think Aaron Smith mentioned it also) because it's newsworthy or because it seems to vindicate the anti- G98 whiners such as yourself?

From: Denstrick Date: 25 May 1998 00:00:00 GMT Newsgroups: alt.movies.monster

I put it up last night because I felt it relevant to the thread and the newsgroup. And just for the record, I LIKED G98.

Dennis

From: Todd Torres Date: 25 May 1998 00:00:00 GMT Organization: Extra Newsguy News Service Newsgroups: alt.movies.monster

K GHIDORAH says... > >Who cares if he walked out? ...Did you put that tidbit up ...because it's newsworthy or because it seems to vindicate the anti- G98 whiners such as yourself?

NO. It's newsworthy and yes, I didn't like the movie. And the other reason I brought it up is this movie in no way is Godzilla. Satsuma has previosly stated that he is retired from playing Godzilla. And King, I bet there are a lot of people who do give a f*&* about it.

Peace

From: Boyd Campbell Date: 25 May 1998 00:00:00 GMT Organization: Internet Doorway, Inc. Newsgroups: alt.movies.monster

Oh, it's definitely newsworthy. It's the same as Sean Connery walking out on a Timothy Dalton Bond movie. Considering that this is a guy that played the part as an actor, (yes, an actor--not just a guy in a rubber suit) then his opinion is of note.

Besides that, he's retired so it can hardly be a matter of him being out of a job.

From: Chrispy1 Date: May 25, 1998 05:05 AM

If I like the American Godzilla, does this automatically qualify me as hating the Japanese Godzilla? I don't think so. I grew up with Godzilla. He has remained with me through my life and will probably be with me until I die. The American movie is different. I found a post I made a long time ago where I stated that the American public would have a very hard time accepting the Japanese Godzilla's origins because they are unique to Japanese culture. It seemed likely that they would take an American view of his origins and make him a mutated animal. I was right then although I was pooh-poohed. We have a character here unique to monster movies. It's not King Kong, Japanese Godzilla or Beast From 20,000 Fathoms. It's a chimerical combination. And I, for one, think it works.

From: RobM78 Subject: Re: Satsuma Walks out of Godzilla!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: 26 May 1998 Newsgroups: alt.movies.monster

Satsuma most likely walked out because the Tri-zilla film basically spit in the face of the Godzilla film legacy that he spent a lifetime being part of. Japanese society is about respect. This film was disrespectful of the source material and Satsuma's reaction is understandable. I have more respect for the hard work that the Japanese put into their modestly budgeted movies than the souless $120 million film that Devlin and Emmerich have given us. Yes, this was an interesting turn of events. The only thing that surprised me is that Mr. Nakajima and Mr. Tsuchiya didn't join their friend in walking out.

From: Bill Stanton Date: 26 May 1998 Organization: gte.net Newsgroups: alt.movies.monster

On 26 May 1998 RobM78 wrote:

> Satsuma most likely walked out because the Tri-zilla film basically spit in the face of the Godzilla film legacy that he spent a lifetime being part of.

Come on. I respect Satsuma san's opinion, but to equate this (if in fact he really DID walk out in disgust) with the "fact" that G98 somehow degrades the previous films is a B I G stretch.

> Japanese society is about respect. This film was disrespectful of the source material and Satsuma's reaction is understandable.

Just a second here. Many of the films Satsuma even 'starred' in were HIGHLY derivative of American source material. M-11 was a poorly executed Terminator clone. GvsKG ('91) even lifted the time travel aspect of the Terminator series. The black and white Bio Major agents in GvsBIO ('89) screaming "We are Lethal Weapon!" was rather obvious. I don't even need to discuss the details of the Indiana Jones sequence at the beginning of GvsMOTHRA ('92).
IMHO, the film references in G98 were subtle by comparison.

 

 

> I have more respect for the hard work that the Japanese put into their modestly budgeted movies than the souless $120 million film that Devlin and Emmerich have given us.

I think you just very unfairly crapped on the hard work of hundreds of people involved with the production of GODZILLA. You realize the long hours and hard, devoted work people put in to get this film done on time? You (and many other so-called G-Fans) are being overly harsh for the sake of posturing and it's offensive to someone like myself who has slaved away in front of a computer to get animations done under an impossible deadline.
The scenes with Godzilla (whether you want to call it that or not) were often SUPERBLY executed and the men and women who produced them should be proud and properly credited. It's not the same as gluing shingles on a model roof but it's hard work all the same.
Whether the concept and execution of G98 was flawed or not, elevating the efforts of those who worked on the Japanese films so far over the efforts of the American crew is absolute tripe. G98 was exactly what Centropolis wanted it to be. Even if you didn't like it, at least acknowledge the work that went into it.

 

 

From: RobM78 Date: 27 May 1998 Newsgroups: alt.movies.monster

Okay. I DO respect the effort that went into the production. However, the cast and crew were bragging for countless months on how this would totally outclass any previous movie or version or Godzilla and that was simply not the case. The reviews speak for themselves.

I'd be willing to bet that if the Japanese had $120 million for a Godzilla, it would be the most spectacular monster movie ever seen on film. And considering how every media publication in the country consistently bashes Japanese monster movies, I don't think it's a stretch to say that this attitude rubbed off on Mr. Satsuma.

The references to American films in some of the G movies were done because the writers and directors were fans of those particular movies. They loved those films, unlike Devlin who once publicly stated that there has never been a good Godzilla film. Such a statement would never come from the Japanese regarding "Aliens", "Lethal Weapon", or whatever. Whether that was their intention or not, Mr. Satsuma perceived it as an insult. Whether it actually was or not is for the history books to decide.

I know movie making is hard work and I am not skilled enough to do it myself but you have to admit the ethnocentric attitude surrounding this film was undeniable. The "we are Americans and we'll do it right" attitude. What foreigner wouldn't be offended by such arrogance? Anyway, Bill, some liked it and some didn't and I say we leave it at that.......let there be peace.....

From: Aaron Smith Date: 27 May 1998 Newsgroups: alt.movies.monster

K GHIDORAH wrote: > > There is simply no comparison.
Yeah, the real Godzilla is much better than the Tri-Star's Fakezilla. Absolutely no comparison.
> Did you put that tidbit up (I think Aaron Smith mentioned it also) because it's newsworthy or because it seems to vindicate the anti- G98 whiners such as yourself?
I put it up the first time since I do deal in Godzilla and kaiju news through my Mailing List and website. I don't think it vindicates anything about G98 whiners other than them knowing when Hollywood is pulling a fast one.

 

 

Aaron

From: Jon Russell Date: 05/27/1998 Newsgroups: alt.movies.monster

I didn't attend G-CON and was wondering what exactly the story was concerning his walking out of G '98.

Just Curious,
Jon Russell

 

 

From: TwoZbar Date: 05/29/1998 Newsgroups: alt.movies.monster

No big deal, actually. He just got up and walked out. Most people didn't even notice it. I was only a few rows away from him and didn't notice. (Of course, I would have had to be awake to have noticed.)

- Jim C.

The New Film About "snicker" Me

Posted by Raptor on 27 May 1998 (in response to The new Film about "snicker" me posted by Godzhirra on 23 May 1998)

Good to hear from you, Godzhirra! I'm sure many of your fans here in the States wonder what you've been up to since your last film. And we are always interested in hearing what you think of our human-type doings.
> In fact, does anyone out there know a good lawyer? I'm going to sue for copyright infringement!
No go, Goji! Seems your human agents back in Tokyo sold you out. Remember signing that big bunch of papers a few years back? You're stuck, big buddy!
> I'll wait.
That's the spirit! Everyone at the latest G-CON filled in their video collections and picked up all kinds of neat toys. We don't call it "G" CON for nothing, you know! Here it is, 3 days after we adjourned and I'm still enjoying the amateur videos some of your fans made about your exploits. And don't forget the costume contest. We had TWO Godzillas to pal around with. And Mecha and Cyber Godzillas also. There's a lot of folks that haven't forsaken you for the latest model with the jazzed up effects and pre-release hype. Heck! With your last movie, we were told way ahead of time you were going to buy the farm but we knew you would do the scene with your usual panache. You got soul and there wasn't a dry eye in the house.
When this new lizard croaked, a lot of folks just got up and left the theater with a blank look on their faces. But we cheered when Junior appeared in the smoke and roared just like his daddy does. You two need to do another movie together, now that he's all grown up. I sure hope the humans didn't mess his mind too bad when he was living at the Research Center. Well, like I said, it was great hearing from you. Think I'll set back and rerun '54, for old time's sake.

 

 

--Gertrude

A Wee Rumor

From: Dr. Derek Robb, Kaiju Hakase Date: 05/28/1998 Newsgroups: alt.movies.monster

Kenpachiro Satsuma, at the G-CON Q&A, commented that if Toho does more G-flicks, they're likely going to make new foes for Junior to battle.
Well, I think that's good news. One of the things that really got me about G vs Biollante was how it was a completely new monster and one that didn't have any resemblence to any of the other monsters. Not that I don't like the old characters but let's let some of the young upstarts in the studio have a go at kaiju design.


An Online Chat with Godzilla!

Posted by b_church Date: 29 May 1998 11:44:18 -0400 Organization: Erol's Internet Services Newsgroups: alt.movies.monster

Godzilla, the U.S. version, was designed by those guys who did ID4. The creature itself  belongs to Toho.

Server: Welcome to our chat with international action star Godzilla.

Godzilla: Hey, webheads!

Server: Time for our first question.

Tohoexec211: Hey, Godzilla! What made you sell out to the U.S.?

Godzilla: Well, first off, I did not "sell out". It's true that I earned a lot of money for this film but it took a bit to lure me out of retirement. But that wasn't even a main factor in my decision. When Emmerich first approached me for this project I was a bit skeptical. I'd seen ID4 and enjoyed it so I gave him the benefit of the doubt. I got script approval, naturally.

Godzilla: Then when I learned that Matthew Broderick and Jean Reno were on board, I was more than willing to do it. These two men are extremely talented and it was a pleasure to work with them. And let's face it: to sell out in the first place I'd have to have been doing art house films to start with. And with the exception of the first one, my movies, though a lot of fun to do, and quite satisfying to me, are anything but art house.

Gfan90: Did you really get plastic surgery for this movie?

Godzilla: Well, I'm not proud of it, but yes, I did get a little work done. I needed to look a lot younger than I really am and makeup wasn't going to do it. But a lot of folks in the biz get regular touch ups and I'm no exception. Take a look at my movies. You'll see what I mean.

Mortometer: How did you prepare for this movie?

Godzilla: Well, I got plastic surgery as I said, and I also worked out. A real lot. I'm happy to say that I'm in better shape than I've ever been. Regular sessions in the gym, laps in the pool and on the track got me looking like I did in the film.

Fanboy1000: Hey, I love your movies and this one was no exception. But I've noticed you write English very well. Do you speak it as well?

Godzilla: As a matter of fact, I do. I took English in college. Which, by the way, was where I first met Mothra.

Oldguy: I grew up watching your movies on T.V. About your co-stars: did you get along well with all of them?

Godzilla: I got along pretty well with most of them, yes. No real problems there. But the only ones I really was friends with were Ghidora and Mothra, whom I'd met a while ago as I said.

Mawma9: Which did you like playing better, good guy or villain?

Godzilla: Ooh, tough one. I'd guess I'd have to say villain. They're just more fun.

Server: We've time for one more question.

Holocost12: What's Ghidora like in real life?

Godzilla: He's a pussycat. He's so unlike his charactor it's almost scary.

Server: That's all the time we have. Thanks to everyone for stopping by, and thanks to Godzilla for taking the time.

An Amusing Experience

Posted by King Varan on 29 May 1998

We of the Kaiju Kingdom (affectionately known as the KK - yes, we are friends off-screen...sorta) had an amusing little experience a few days ago. I guess I should start at the beginning...

We were all reading our fan mail at the Toho office (Gigan is a handy letter-opener) and then came across a letter addressing a question of why we don't wear clothes.
Okay. We figured to try it out. On our daily rampage through Tokyo, we stopped by Kaiju GAP and managed to persuade the store owner to let us clear it out for free (Destroyah's horn to his throat was enough to give us the go-ahead). We came back and tried to get dressed. It was funny, I'll let you know that much.
Minya managed to get into a very dorky pair of suspenders and a flannel shirt. He was a bully magnet and even I wanted to beat him up. Gabara decided to do it. Of course, Rodan told him to wear rubber gloves. So Gabara attacks Minya and tries to electrocute him and instead the rubber reverses it. So Gabara gets fried and he didn't like clothes much anymore. He punched Rodan so hard the big bird hit the roof. Kong was the only other kaiju to fit into something. It was a tux, which he figured would make the ladies WANT to meet him. Angillas had a hard time putting anything on: his back spines tore everything up. Gigan's belly-saw ripped anything he wore also. Godzilla managed to fit on a pair of shoes and a baseball cap but that was it. Manda fit right into a sock but he didn't like it. Mothra and Battra had a pair of scarves. Hedorah's acidic body melted everything he touched so he didn't even try, aside from a futile attempt with a hat. Ghidorah tried to fit all three heads into one sweater but didn't get too far. It was funny watching him try. Rodan wore a dunce cap over all those horns (it suits him well, actually) and Megalon got into a pair of boxers all right.
Someone put Ebirah's claws in a pair of mittens. When he tried to rip someone's arms off he couldn't and he was really mad. Godzilla helped him out though. Super Mecha Godzilla wore a T-Shirt but when he fired the chest buster it burnt to a crisp.
I had a tough time with my back spines and membrane and was lucky to get a pair of jeans on. Destroyah fit a tophat over his horn and even put on a bowtie. After a bit of this we were all pretty cranky and vowed never to put on clothes again.
So that's why we don't wear clothes.


TOHO Unused SPFX and Godzilla Scenes ??

From: TwoZbar Date: 22 Aug 1998 Newsgroups: alt.movies.monster

I bought a copy from Video Daikaiju--it has an unused scene where Manda is coiled around a building and Godzilla starts to beat up on him/it. Haruo Nakajima, the actor who played Godzilla in this film, said that he was angry about something that day so he took his frustrations out on the Manda puppet. The video is worth getting just for that scene, although there is a lot of other Godzilla-related footage contained in it as well.

- Red (from the Two-Z-Bar)


 

 

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